got it passed, the johnson amendment, with only a voice vote. no discussion through the u.s. senate 58 years ago. it's never been taken to court in 58 years. there's 2,200 attorneys who are prepared to defend this probono. we're just trying to reclaim what we believe is our constitutional right based upon the first amendment. >> are you worried at all? i mean, if the law isn't being enforced by the irs? >> i'm not worried. the law being enforced by the irs. there's two issues on this. one is a legal issue. my attorney friends see it primarily from that light, and i understand that. as a pastor, i see it as a standpoint of the spiritual renewal in america. pastors have backed away from biblical application. if i people on biblical application to permanent life, nobody seems to have a problem with that. if i speak on an application of family life or church life, that's fine, but if i speak on what the scripture has to say about application to national life or community life, then all of a sudden congregants say all over america that, oh, pastor, y